
I have noticed bloggers and Freepers piling on to Rep. Murtha for his comments about immediately withdrawing from Iraq. I believe that we should consider what this man is saying. He is not some hippie freak. He is also not alone—even among conservatives.
On October 4, 2005, I sat in for Mychal Massie on his radio talk show on Right Talk Radio. My guest was the author of Born Fighting: How the Scots-Irish Shaped America, James H. Webb, Jr.
Jim Webb is a hero. He is one of my personal heroes. It kills me that the Republican party has lost him. He’s contemplating a run against Sen. George Allen—as a Democrat.
He opposed going into Iraq from the beginning. I assure you that he is no America Hater. Immediately after 9-11, :
What do we do? First, I have a great deal of respect and admiration for Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld and for the people that President George W. Bush has in his national security apparatus. I think the steps that have been taken have been smart ones. They’re looking long-term. I have no day-to-day connection with what’s going on, but from a distance I feel a great deal of confidence.
What we need is a clear articulation of the national strategy to the American people. When we commit to something like this, which involves many unknowns, people need to know what the endgame really is. In my view, there are two endgames.
The first is homeland defense. We must create an environment here in the United States in which our intelligence apparatus has been reinvigorated. So we can feel secure inside our borders, we must find terrorist cells, penetrate them, and eliminate them. And we must develop a capability to prevent similar groups from entering and operating in this country. It’s sort of like rule number one in any operational military environment: you cannot go on patrol if your perimeter isn’t secure. This is our highest priority, in my view.
Step number two is to convince every country in the world to accept responsibility for policing and eliminating terrorist training and other activities inside their own borders. In a way, this is my reading of what this administration began when it told several countries that have very bad records in this area, You have the chance to demonstrate to us that you will do this.
In those countries that do not agree with us, I think we need to do the policing for them for a while. And we need to start with a basic premise: if fundamentalist Muslim terrorists want to die for a cause, you are not going to stop them. The most important thing you can do, if you are their adversary, is to kill them on your terms, not on theirs. That makes some Americans—particularly American media—squeamish. But that is the reality of the situation we are in.
The Taliban is probably the most clear-cut example of what might be called a prototype for looking forward into how we should be addressing the situation. We have given those people clear signals. They obviously are not complying, for a number of reasons. As a result, we are taking necessary action to ensure elimination of this cancer that has grown inside their country. We have the right to do that, under the United Nations Charter. This is clearly self-defense. And if we establish the right kind of management prototype, so to speak, countries now sitting on the fence on the issue will be much more likely to take responsibility for activities inside their borders.
In that same article, he warned against the temptation to go into Iraq:
My final admonition—and I got into some trouble with this during the Gulf War—is that we are not in a position as a nation, and particularly as a military, to occupy large pieces of territory. The Wall Street Journal editorialized repeatedly during the Gulf War that we should set up a MacArthurian regency in Baghdad. There has been a lot of discussion about why we did not take Baghdad during the Gulf War. I think as much as anyone in this country, I would like to see Saddam Hussein go. To my knowledge, I was the only guy in the Reagan administration who opposed the tilt toward Iraq, in writing, in 1987. I do not think we had nor have the resources to occupy Iraq.
Go to James Webb’s site and read all his articles.
That said, you will note that in October 2005, Webb did not advocate immediate withdrawal from Iraq:
Q: There are a lot of people who say we made a terrible mistake but we will compound it if we just back out now. Do you agree?
A: I’m not saying we should pick up everything and leave in six months. I’m saying we made a horrendous mistake going in, in my view a strategic error. This is not a moral comment. There are a lot of situations around the world where I wouldn’t shed a tear if a leader were taken out. The question is where you draw your national priorities and how that plays out. I was in Beirut as a journalist in 1983. It was an incredible experience for me looking at the lay of the land. We had an issue when I was secretary of the Navy where we tilted toward Iraq (during the Iran-Iraq war). I think I was the only guy in the Reagan administration who opposed the tilt toward Iraq in writing.
What’s your recommendation on how we get out?
I think there are two things that need to happen. The first is that the administration needs to say with absolute clarity that we have no long-term aspirations in Iraq. And then the other is to reinvolve a lot of the countries that are in that region. Iran’s probably too dangerous because of the way they’ve moved into the Shiite areas; But to reinvolve the Arab nations and invite them to participate in the solution.
I like that. I don’t agree with immediate withdrawal or with a time-table. I think that the government should articulate specific goals to achieve before we withdraw. Things like numbers of Iraqi’s who are trained…etc. I do not want us to remain in Iraq for decades.
I want us to give Islamic countries an opportunity to clean out terrorist nests. If they don’t, I want us to be like the machines in Terminator, swooping down to clean them out.
I don’t like seeing our soldiers build stuff—I want to see them destroy stuff.
P.S. The photo above is of Jim Webb with Morley Safer. Isn’t he a gorgeous man?